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#1 2012-11-24 14:58:44

netline
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Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Hi there,

I currently run Autopano Giga on my desktop that has 8gb RAM and a 1gb Graphics card and it is usually fine.

I am interested in buying a laptop to render at clients, with a tight budget I wanted to know if the laptop specs below would suffice if I upgraded the RAM to 8gb.

Lastly the Panos I stitch are never more than 150 images and that is bracketed

Here is the Laptop and specs

GIGABYTE® Q1532M Notebook: Intel® Pentium Dual Core B960 2.20GHz Processor, 2GB DDR3 1333MHz Memory (1x 2GB - 2 Slots), 320GB 5400RPM 2.5" SATA HDD, 8x DVD Super Multi Writer, 15.6" HD Ready 1366x768 LCD Widescreen, 1.3 Megapixel Webcam, Intel® HM65 Express Mobile Chipset, Integrated Gigabit LAN, Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g/n @ 300Mbps , Bluetooth, Facial Recognition, Microsoft Windows 7 Basic, 2 Year Global Warranty With Fetch And Repair, 1x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0, 1x Headphone & Mic Jack, 1x D-Sub VGA, 1x HDMI, 1x RJ-45 Ethernet, 9-In-1 Reader

Your help would be very much appreciated.

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#2 2012-11-24 18:28:25

gkaefer
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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

invest in a notebook with 16GB RAM. my DELL PC (no notebook) difference from 8 to 16 is like driving a fiat panda and tesla sportser car
Georg

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#3 2012-11-24 18:58:43

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Shoot your pano's at JPG+RAW. Process the jpg's at your laptop and later/when needed process the RAW files at home at your desktop.


Regards,  Hans Keesom
I stitch and render for other photographers see http://tinyurl.com/brxvlhg for details

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#4 2012-11-24 23:29:01

Christian Stüben
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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

netline wrote:

Lastly the Panos I stitch are never more than 150 images and that is bracketed

150 images, that is today. And tomorrow? I am shure the project will come you need more than 150 images. Much more.

From Asus and Acer there are Laptop models that can utilize up to 32 GB Ram. So my recommendation would be ... better wait one or two months more to be able to pay for the Laptop models with higher ram capacity. Tomorrow rulez, not today.


Greetings from germany
Chris


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#5 2012-11-25 11:39:20

netline
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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Thank you very much I will take the advice

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#6 2012-11-25 13:59:53

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Personally I am wondering whether it is an alternative to look at the all-in-one's from apple or from HP (z1)
In case they fit the size of carry-on luggage you can have a wonderfull screen and powerfull machine on location/hotelroom wherever you go. 

It might even be cost-effective.


Regards,  Hans Keesom
I stitch and render for other photographers see http://tinyurl.com/brxvlhg for details

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#7 2012-11-28 20:20:27

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

I second the vote for 16GB. most laptops support it these days so if the upgrade is too expensive and you are brave enough you can buy the RAM and install it yourself for ~$75.
also keep in mind you need the hard disk space for temporary copies of the files (uncompressed)

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#8 2012-11-28 21:56:05

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Personally I am looking at something like this http://www.nextcomputing.com/products/p … /radius-ex

xeon, up to 128 GB DR3 memory, integrated 17" 1920 x 1200 and option to clip on a second or thir display.  Just a bit worried about the price ;-)


Regards,  Hans Keesom
I stitch and render for other photographers see http://tinyurl.com/brxvlhg for details

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#9 2012-11-29 06:23:51

Christian Stüben
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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

HansKeesom wrote:

Personally I am looking at something like this http://www.nextcomputing.com/products/p … /radius-ex

xeon, up to 128 GB DR3 memory, integrated 17" 1920 x 1200 and option to clip on a second or thir display.  Just a bit worried about the price ;-)

Nice toy, really nice toy. I really would like to have one. But ... it is transportable, not portable tongue In the specifications i found no battery, so you need a ac outlet everytime. And more than 5 minutes on top of your lap is not recommended.

greetings from germany


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#10 2012-11-29 09:49:25

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

In general, do you really, really want to process at the location or do you want to use your time there to make more panoramas?


I carry around  acer aspire one netbook (2 GB, 400 euro) and have a 16 GB workstation at home which is on 24/7. Often it is faster to transer all files to the workstation using FTP and then process them using a remote desktop on the workstation. Done that 7800 km from home and it worked fine. just need a decent internet connection.

Sometimes I shoot in JPG+RAW, process the jpg's on my netbook, just to organise the photos into groups en do basic editing. Rendering is even possible, but mostly I FTP evertyhing to my NAS at the office, start up the workstation remotely and 'search and replace"  in every file ".jpg" into ".CR2" Then I reload the project into APG and instead of the jpg's the RAW files are loaded.

But that is all with 30 photos in one pano. for 150 photos you would indeed need much more memory in the laptop even when working in jpg and you need more memory in your wokstation.


Regards,  Hans Keesom
I stitch and render for other photographers see http://tinyurl.com/brxvlhg for details

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#11 2013-01-13 15:00:20

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

Hello there,
in my view, you should go for a toshiba w/ core i7 and as much ram you can, changing the hd with an SSD. Acer can be a bargain alternative to toshiba.
Stay away from HP !! Displays burns down very often...
Regards

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#12 2013-01-13 16:17:00

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

netline wrote:

I am interested in buying a laptop to render at clients, with a tight budget I wanted to know if the laptop specs below would suffice if I upgraded the RAM to 8gb.

In 2009 we bought a 17" MacBook Pro. 2,8GHz DualCore and 8GB RAM. I use a Wacom A5 tablet and have a portable kind of workstation with a good screen in a very flat case.

The point is: for shooting with a 15mm fisheye - 7 shots x 7 brackets - it works perfectly. Sitiching, editing and rendering works fluent and fast.
The screen lets me work very comfortably. I´m still using this MBP on tour for controlling - with external drives of course.

It always depends on what you really need to achieve in the end. Doing shootings up to a 35mm lens that works fine. Doing shootings with longer lenses - >50mm -it might get difficult using a laptop - i wouldn´t do it at all.

What i can say after about 7 years of panoshooting: first hand it seems to be very attractive processing the panos at the client´s site on the spot.

But i never do it (besides of quick controls of course). Real good work takes it´s time. "Quick and dirty cheapos" on one side or profoundly elaborated in all aspects on the other side - in the end THAT defines the quality of your work and THIS defines the status of your name . . . which then reflects in your price and the kind of clients who want YOU in person to work on their cases.

But - you must yourself decide what kind of panorama-photographer or -producer you want to be.

I´d always suggest a MacBook Pro for working on the road - like around 75% of the professional photographers i know use. At home i use a MacPro with actually 32GB RAM as my main-machine and a PC with 64GB RAM as a second machine just for rendering.

best, Klaus


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#13 2013-01-17 15:11:28

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Re: Advice needed on Laptop to run Autopano Giga

klausesser wrote:

netline wrote:

I am interested in buying a laptop to render at clients, with a tight budget I wanted to know if the laptop specs below would suffice if I upgraded the RAM to 8gb.

In 2009 we bought a 17" MacBook Pro. 2,8GHz DualCore and 8GB RAM. I use a Wacom A5 tablet and have a portable kind of workstation with a good screen in a very flat case.

The point is: for shooting with a 15mm fisheye - 7 shots x 7 brackets - it works perfectly. Sitiching, editing and rendering works fluent and fast.
The screen lets me work very comfortably. I´m still using this MBP on tour for controlling - with external drives of course.

It always depends on what you really need to achieve in the end. Doing shootings up to a 35mm lens that works fine. Doing shootings with longer lenses - >50mm -it might get difficult using a laptop - i wouldn´t do it at all.

What i can say after about 7 years of panoshooting: first hand it seems to be very attractive processing the panos at the client´s site on the spot.

But i never do it (besides of quick controls of course). Real good work takes it´s time. "Quick and dirty cheapos" on one side or profoundly elaborated in all aspects on the other side - in the end THAT defines the quality of your work and THIS defines the status of your name . . . which then reflects in your price and the kind of clients who want YOU in person to work on their cases.

But - you must yourself decide what kind of panorama-photographer or -producer you want to be.

I´d always suggest a MacBook Pro for working on the road - like around 75% of the professional photographers i know use. At home i use a MacPro with actually 32GB RAM as my main-machine and a PC with 64GB RAM as a second machine just for rendering.

best, Klaus

It is indeed good to have a Macbook pro. Many in the artistic/photographic world will not take serious when you walk in with a non mac.  They will tell your otherwise but be aware that this is something more emotionaly based then logical. So don't try to fight it with logic, you will find yourself in an even more dire situation then before. ;-)   Just to break the ice I placed an apple sticker on my acer netbook which happens to be the same white as many macbooks ;-)


Regards,  Hans Keesom
I stitch and render for other photographers see http://tinyurl.com/brxvlhg for details

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