Well... I wouldn't make a very convincing looking guy with all my curves.. so I guess that would make me The PTP Goddess!!..

Some good News is on the horison.. Two hansome guys, Alexandre J and Gérald, as well as a heap of other smart kolor boys and girls are working on ptp V2.. I am sure it will be available in beta version very soon and offer all that you need..  

Destiny
The PTP Goddess!!...

PTP Goddess here..  Objects as in; 'spin an object in 360' are ok'ish but to be able to rotate the entire 3D object in all directions is the way I am going... I need to put something more interesting up than my 3D Bulldog Clip, but it was my first ever model I made.. I have others so I will change it soon.. To open this 3D model, unless you have already done so, just click on the hotspot and it will show a loader.. It is actually loading anyway behind the scenes when you opened the Pano.. You can rotate this object in all directions. To close it, just click on it without rotating or click on the hotspot again.. http://members.westnet.com.au/dps/krpano3D/tour.html Something like this is coming to ptp soon....

The thumb image at the top left here is not a Shadow Box window, its a container using Dreamweaver.. You can drag the entire slide show over the pano using the + icon... Very cool... http://members.westnet.com.au/DPS/Desti … ctive.html
Its just a test but you will get the point.. I can add video to this too.... Adding a Constrainer is fairly easy but it has issues... Hard to write a tutorial since most of what I do is breaking the rules of what can and cannot be done.. I do not read How-To, I just go and try and see ... sometimes it works but sometimes it doesn't. Most interactive media I create can take a lot of effort.. I can even get a full Virtual Tour to work in a PDF which took a lot of testing.. Handy for the right job I guess...

What do you mean by "(can someone explain to my why _top option does not work anymore?)"

Destiny...

Hi Gund... with capturing object for Object 360, you really are better off with a VR Drive 2 or a motorised head of some kind or it will drive you crazy at the time it can take.. But if you do do it by hand, you will need a Rotor from NN, you can buy that from the kolor Store. You will find that if you move the camera just slightly it will show on your rotation.. You need to automate it as much as possible.. Also, forget about the blue or green back drop scenes... The green will bleed into your object as will the blue but not as much.. There is software that prevents that but its not cheap... Use white where there is no white on the edges of your object, or grey, or even black at times.. Keep with the B/W and all bends.. Sometimes brown too, but you can play with the colours.. You need to make sure you go all Manual and set the white balance and turn off auto focus. You will know if you have this right since if its not, then the white will be grey.. You can use white card for white balance but the better option is the correct Grey WB Card. They are not cheap so I just use white card.. Its not perfect but you can edit that anyway.. Also, forget about using a flash, you will need to buy soft lights for this.. Once you have your images captured, create a Macro or even a Droplet in Photoshop.. You need to make a dummy one up to test your setting and then you can automate your process by recording it.. Its then just a matter of pressing the run Macro or dumping the Droplet onto the images in your folder.. In some cases you will be able to leave your backdrop as is, but not often...

You need to create one layer with the image set to B/W using your colour changer, and enhance the lines plugin .. Then change the settings to make the image darker.. This is your dummy image. You can then use your smart select tool to select the background, then reverse it, then deselect that layer and select your working graphic. There are other processes here but I am sure you will work it out from this.. The idea is, to try to select your object as cleanly and as precisely as possible by using a dummy graphic, so now that it is selected, you can remove the background.. Once you have all this in place and it appears to work, do it again and record for the Macro or Droplet. Save as a 24 bit png.. This will reduce your file size even more since you are not using the same background 36 times or a minimum of 12 times or your rotation will look a bit yuck.. There is a feature you should know about with the 24 bit png.. if you save as an image as a jpg and the same as a png, the png will most likely be a bigger file size.. Its due to the forth channel, the alpha.... But Flash uses a CODEC that allows for the png to optimise better so the end swf file size will be a lot smaller..

You are now ready to cuddle a Koala and give it a sip of your XXXX which is better than an old gum leaf... or in your case... some Russian Vodka.. )

Object VRs are not a quick thing to create and that is just part of the process.. The most important would be the showcasing of the object to provide as much detail as possible... At the moment I am using all kinds of coding but for all this to work effectively, with the new ptp V2, it needs to be webGL since a swf will not work in a iCrap, or iCrap mini or iCrap phone thing.. JavaScrip is also an option..

To be honest, my first attempts at creating a 360 object lead me into all kinds of issues.. One being.. giving the boys and girls at Seitz Round Shot a really good laugh at the way I went about using my VR Drive for object photography .. To be honest, the VR Drive 2 is by far the best option for creating object VRs since you then have an amazing motorised VR Drive to create your VRs using bracketed and HDR shots, which are supported by the kolor software.. I just need some TIME to play with my HDR feature.. We are going to Thailand, the Koh Samui Island for a month in Feb next year, so I am hoping to capture some great shots.. I will spend the Christmas break getting my skills honed up..  I will probably have to bother the Seitz boys and girls but the thing I have found, their customer service is better than World Class.. If you have an issue it will be fixed very quickly..

Anyway.. удачи .

Destiny...
The PTP Goddess!!.. Offically granted and approved by Gund

Yeah I would agree with Klausesser that a hand-made turntable is better for the beginning -  I have made one out of my vinyl records player — but it is good only for small and medium-sized objects.  I haven't yet found out about the profit that objectVR may bring — even though internet shops are very popular  here I still understand that it may get little profit. I've got some scientific institutes in here that may be interested in object VR with hot spots and interactive areas for the digital manuals to their unique equipment or as an advertisment for clients. I've got a certain advantage — no one yet does it in this city ) (or at least I have not yet found anyone).
I eliminated camera displacement by releasing shutter with a wireless remote control, I've got grid on the LCD screen of my d7000 so even if the object is displaced I may always get it back relying on the checkpoints i set on the grid. Now it takes me about two minutes to shot a 32 images 360 row.

That was a good macro for photoshop that Destiny described I  processed a set of photos with a different macro  I didn't think at that time about  making sharper outlines of an object and than taking a mask  - that would really help to make a better quality alpha in the picture. I will find out more about the 24bit png- saving mb of swf files is always a plus. Batch process of images using a particular macro makes it quite fast to create multiple images with alpha channel.
I will try to experiment with blue screen by setting speedlights with softboxes  on the left and on the  right. I think that if the light is properly set there won't be bad blue reflections on the object unless it is really glossy. If I fail I will take brown although I think they always use the tint of blue that may hardly ever be encountered in real-life object while brown is quite a popular color.
I've never thought about whitebalance while shooting — always set it in lightroom along with the crop (using LCD grid is very handy if you need to crop all the images at once) and than synchronasing all photos with one click.

Now I'm ready to cast a macro script on my pet bear to send him to a local store to buy some vodka and play balalaika in the street. 

I don't quite understand the use of HDR in objectVR photography? Why?
I used to do HDR shots with lumix fz-50 as it had micro dynamic range but when I bought d7000 with the dynamic range of 13.9 I started to create HDR pictures from a single raw file as it was much faster and more neat (especially when lightroom 4 came up allowing to set different highlight recovery and shadow recovery options for different parts of one picture).

Another thing that I don't understand is why people from Australia come for holidays to Thailand — It is like going from one warm and friendly civilized country to another which is however a little bit less civilized. It is like me going to Mongolia for vacation — changing one cold in-the-middle-of-nowhere place for another one but less civilized.

You can't even imagine what it would be like for me to order an expensive piece of equipment from Switzerland and to get it shipped to Siberia. My pano head is made of wood and a couple of screws (this is not a joke) and works perfectly well — I can even make 15 360 degrees panos during  a wedding day and make a virtual tour with flash galleries out of it all in two days. My tripod is alluminum and 2$ cheap — but it works fine for me). The closest city to get a manfrotto pano-head is Moscow and it is 3 day by train) and it costs aroun 800$.
I'am designing q turntalbe with a friend of mine how works as an engineer inventing protective covering for jet fighter planes — I want something cheap and wooden but he wants to get it motorized and probably be able to survive a 600 ton weight and an enormous friction force in case it would have to fall 10000 miles through the atmosphere one day.  This is the only issue concerning the turntable design for me right now. I think i might stick to his variant as in the future I may turn it into a merry-go-round in my back yard.

I thought _top means that an html will be opened in a window above the main one but it works in the same way as _self

Спасибо!

Gund wrote:

You can't even imagine what it would be like for me to order an expensive piece of equipment from Switzerland and to get it shipped to Siberia. My pano head is made of wood and a couple of screws (this is not a joke) and works perfectly well — I can even make 15 360 degrees panos during  a wedding day and make a virtual tour with flash galleries out of it all in two days. My tripod is alluminum and 2$ cheap — but it works fine for me). The closest city to get a manfrotto pano-head is Moscow and it is 3 day by train) and it costs aroun 800$.
I'am designing q turntalbe with a friend of mine how works as an engineer inventing protective covering for jet fighter planes — I want something cheap and wooden but he wants to get it motorized and probably be able to survive a 600 ton weight and an enormous friction force in case it would have to fall 10000 miles through the atmosphere one day.  This is the only issue concerning the turntable design for me right now. I think i might stick to his variant as in the future I may turn it into a merry-go-round in my back yard.

There are some free or cheap chroma-keyers which might do the job very good without spending much money.
Also there are several tutorials on the web using Photoshop for chroma-keying. Check them out!

best, Klaus

Yeah - half of the people here would gladly move to this straw hut from they expensive apartments. But you probably know that Russians like Thai more than anyone else and half of my friends work there or go there for vacation. Anyway it was a not-serious comparison of Australia and Thai - actually it was as serious as all the stereotypes about people here walking with bears on the streets and drinking vodka.  But I do believe that Australia is a more developed country and Thai in some places is just lke India (Thai people are the friendliest I've ever met).

Buuuuuut... back to photography - are there any links to some good or famous HDR?  We peobably mean different things talking about HDR. I process my RAWs in lightroom - greatly expanding  dynamic range of most of my photos (especially street photos) Playing with the curve can sometimes make them LDR- but I've never thought about it as doing LDR or HDR photograohy. And I really think that an HDR in its previous meaning - when you take several photos with different exposure - start to become extinct as the dynamic range of modern cameras expand and the results of working width a single raw file are comparable to 3 or 5 image stiched HDR (although making 1 RAW is significantly simpler)
I like the AG team from Paris - they make really neat HDR without white or dark auras along the edges and without dirty-looking toning - but I think they take more single-raw shots HDR and apply some faux-hdr algorithms in Photoshop.