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#1 2012-10-15 12:14:50

Christian Stüben
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remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Hi all,
for remote controlling the panogear i know about the touch panel, and papywizard on pc.

What i need is a device that...
- has looooong batterie runtime (4 hours, better 8 when running things like papywizard).
- has the feature to work with predefined shooting pattern (like papywizard does).

My own laptop has a batterie runtime of sixty, with a little luck seventy minutes. And it is heavy and voluminous. So this is only an option in emergency case ;-(


What other devices do you use for controlling the panogear? Atom Netbook, iphone, android phone?

greetings from germany
Chris


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#2 2012-10-15 13:44:57

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#3 2012-10-15 14:32:25

Christian Stüben
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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Thank you for the link. Unfortunately i don´t have a android yet, so i can´t test it. Does the app support predefined shooting pattern?


greetings from gemany
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#4 2012-10-15 15:25:49

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

Hi all,
for remote controlling the panogear i know about the touch panel, and papywizard on pc.

What i need is a device that...
- has looooong batterie runtime (4 hours, better 8 when running things like papywizard).
- has the feature to work with predefined shooting pattern (like papywizard does).

My own laptop has a batterie runtime of sixty, with a little luck seventy minutes. And it is heavy and voluminous. So this is only an option in emergency case ;-(


What other devices do you use for controlling the panogear? Atom Netbook, iphone, android phone?

greetings from germany
Chris

How do you power the Panogear mount so that it has 4-8 hour autonomy?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#5 2012-10-15 15:44:18

Christian Stüben
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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

mediavets wrote:

How do you power the Panogear mount so that it has 4-8 hour autonomy?

it has the 12v dc connector for external batterie. Either a big nickel cadmium / nickel metal hydrid or a simple car batterie, with additional 8.1 volt power stabilizer for the camera.


one question to the external power  connector ... when i insert a connector, will the internal batteries be disconnected automatically, or have they to be removed to protect them from getting toasted?


greetings from germany
Chris


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#6 2012-10-15 15:50:32

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

Hi all,
for remote controlling the panogear i know about the touch panel, and papywizard on pc.

What i need is a device that...
- has looooong batterie runtime (4 hours, better 8 when running things like papywizard).
- has the feature to work with predefined shooting pattern (like papywizard does).

My own laptop has a batterie runtime of sixty, with a little luck seventy minutes. And it is heavy and voluminous. So this is only an option in emergency case ;-(


What other devices do you use for controlling the panogear? Atom Netbook, iphone, android phone?

greetings from germany
Chris

The TC controller gets it´s power from the head. So if you have plenty of power for the head you also have plenty of power for the controller . .

No need at all for pre-defined patterns - everything gets calculated on the spot in realtime.

best, Klaus


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#7 2012-10-15 17:17:42

Christian Stüben
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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

klausesser wrote:

The TC controller gets it´s power from the head. So if you have plenty of power for the head you also have plenty of power for the controller . .

No need at all for pre-defined patterns - everything gets calculated on the spot in realtime.

best, Klaus

And does it optimize the shooting pattern (lesser pictures) when you come near zenith or nadir? If yes, then this would be the hardware of my choice.
And ... does it generate the xml files for apg import? This is an important feature too.

greetings to Düsseldorf
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#8 2012-10-15 18:00:57

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

klausesser wrote:

The TC controller gets it´s power from the head. So if you have plenty of power for the head you also have plenty of power for the controller . .

No need at all for pre-defined patterns - everything gets calculated on the spot in realtime.

best, Klaus

And does it optimize the shooting pattern (lesser pictures) when you come near zenith or nadir? If yes, then this would be the hardware of my choice.
And ... does it generate the xml files for apg import? This is an important feature too.

greetings to Düsseldorf
Chris

Both items i already explained lenghty several times here wink - YES: it of course calculates lesser shots in upper and in lower rows and YES: it writes XML files for positioning in APG using the PapyWizard import.
I use to generate once a "dry" xml-file for each lens i use - this one i can use as a pattern each time i shoot using the according lens. To generate the files i let the head run at home without a camera and load down the xml.
The precision of the head is so high that it´s assured the "dry" recorded positions are absolutely the same as the ones it shoots in the field. I have a folder on my desktop which contains the xml for each lens for shooting spheres or angles.
Important is to use absolutely identical angles of course - with spheres there´s no problem: a sphere always is 360x180° cool

So i don´t even need to load down the xml - i already have one for each lens. OF COURSE THATS´S ONLY RELATED TO SHOOTING SPHERES OR ANGLES.

Nevertheless each shooting generates it´s own xml file for being used in APG.

Shooting moasics you load down from the controller the corresponding xml which contains all the start- and end-positions as well as all positions in between - no matter which angles and mosaics you shoot using which lens and
which size of output.

best, Klaus

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#9 2012-10-15 18:22:58

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

mediavets wrote:

How do you power the Panogear mount so that it has 4-8 hour autonomy?

it has the 12v dc connector for external batterie. Either a big nickel cadmium / nickel metal hydrid or a simple car batterie, with additional 8.1 volt power stabilizer for the camera.

OK then in that case you could also power/charge a Nokia N800/N810 Internet tablet and get 4-8 hours runtime with it running Papywizard.

But you'd probably be better off with the Touch controller.


one question to the external power  connector ... when i insert a connector, will the internal batteries be disconnected automatically, or have they to be removed to protect them from getting toasted?


greetings from germany
Chris

You should always remove the internal batteries when using an external power supply.


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#10 2012-10-16 07:56:23

Christian Stüben
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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

klausesser wrote:

I use to generate once a "dry" xml-file for each lens i use - this one i can use as a pattern each time i shoot using the according lens. To generate the files i let the head run at home without a camera and load down the xml.

Hey, why didn´t i find the idea of a pre-made "dry" xml myself? Shame on me.

klausesser wrote:

OF COURSE THATS´S ONLY RELATED TO SHOOTING SPHERES OR ANGLES.

Not only spheres. Water, large unique areas, new buildings or renovated rooms without any furniture and only blank walls ... without xml support that´s always hard to stitch. Did i say hard? Impossible.

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#11 2012-10-16 08:06:37

Christian Stüben
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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

mediavets wrote:

OK then in that case you could also power/charge a Nokia N800/N810 Internet tablet and get 4-8 hours runtime with it running Papywizard.

But you'd probably be better off with the Touch controller.

So papywizard runs on android? I see, this will be no easy decision ... touch controller or android cellphone tongue

Thank you for the hint.

greetings from germany
Chris


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#12 2012-10-16 09:32:41

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

klausesser wrote:

OF COURSE THATS´S ONLY RELATED TO SHOOTING SPHERES OR ANGLES.

Not only spheres. Water, large unique areas, new buildings or renovated rooms without any furniture and only blank walls ... without xml support that´s always hard to stitch. Did i say hard? Impossible.

greetings froim germany

Hi Chris!

I ment: you need a pre-defined pattern only for spheres - because the positions related to a lens/sensor always are the same when shooting spheres. Shooting as angles it depends on how precisely you can set the angle and how precisely the head follows the setting . . cool

In mosaic-mode it´s unlikely that you have repeatedly the exactly identical mosaic by setting a start- and end-point related to your motif - so a pattern usually wouldn´t help here: you need to import the recorded xml-pattern from the controller.

best, Klaus

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#13 2012-10-16 11:28:50

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Re: remote controlling panogear, device with long batterie runtime?

Christian Stüben wrote:

mediavets wrote:

OK then in that case you could also power/charge a Nokia N800/N810 Internet tablet and get 4-8 hours runtime with it running Papywizard.

But you'd probably be better off with the Touch controller.

So papywizard runs on android? I see, this will be no easy decision ... touch controller or android cellphone tongue

Thank you for the hint.

greetings from germany
Chris

No, Paywizard does not run on Android.

The Nokia N800/N810 Internet tablets (neither any longer in production but widely available used via, say, ebay) run Maemo OS derived from Linux. They are not phones and have no telephony functionality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800

But as Klaus suggests, for your needs, it sounds as if you'd probably be better off with the Touch controller.


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#14 2012-10-22 11:28:51

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