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#1 2012-09-24 14:02:42

Christian Stüben
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Panogear: 360° on both axis?

Hi,
your webpage (technical specifications) says "Rotation: 360° rotation on two bases, no restrictions.". But on the Fotokina i have seen, that when using the touchpad controler, vertical movement is limited to +- 60°.

Why? Is it a limitation by the touchpad controler, by the lens profile, by the touchpad, by the panogear itself?

Yes, long telephoto lenses should be prevented from damage by colliding with the base, but there are shorter ones.

Or can i really have full 360° x 360° (360 x 180 would be ok tongue for me) on both axis by using a pc/papywizard via bluetooth?

greeetings from germany
Chris

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#2 2012-09-24 14:52:43

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Re: Panogear: 360° on both axis?

its not a bug, nore a limitation. its a feature.
if you set the touch controller to spherical mode than the nadir will not be shot, because it only contains the merlin base.

the merlin itself has no limitation. if you wanna have the touchcontroller shoot all 180" you can contact Josef to get one special version for you.

and if you use papywizzard than you allways get 360x180 rotations, BUT you get in each row the same number of pictures, which is on zenitz and nadir a little bit nonsense.

so Josefs method to calculate the number of images per row according to used focal & sensor and omitting the nadir (so you've not to retouch the tripod legs) is the most usefull approach.
To get my nadir I use a ballhead. So I can lift the center column of my tripod than turn the merlin with the ballhead 90" so my cam is showing exact to ground. Finally I've to move my tripod so the cam is above the nadir. one or finally 2 images (in case of 2 each180" rotated tripod ). Finally I load the xml with the images into autopano and after detection I load the nadir images and place manually CP's to only one sometimes 2 neighbor images.

Georg

EDIT: I refer to T&C  Handcontroller

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#3 2012-09-24 14:59:42

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Re: Panogear: 360° on both axis?

Christian Stüben wrote:

Hi,
your webpage (technical specifications) says "Rotation: 360° rotation on two bases, no restrictions.". But on the Fotokina i have seen, that when using the touchpad controler, vertical movement is limited to +- 60°.

Why? Is it a limitation by the touchpad controler, by the lens profile, by the touchpad, by the panogear itself?

Yes, long telephoto lenses should be prevented from damage by colliding with the base, but there are shorter ones.

Or can i really have full 360° x 360° (360 x 180 would be ok tongue for me) on both axis by using a pc/papywizard via bluetooth?

greeetings from germany
Chris

There isn´t any limitation caused by the touch controller (did you mean that saying touchpad?). Limitations are caused by the size of the camera/lens related to their positioning on the rail.
With lenses which exceeds a certain size it´s not possible to shoot +90° - the camera hits the Merlin´s base. The vertical arm of the Merlin should be a bit longer . .

You can see how it can work here - Panoneed and Touch Control: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KijVNMo0J0k

You see a longer vertical arm can take long lenses without touching the head´s base.

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#4 2012-09-24 15:25:45

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Re: Panogear: 360° on both axis?

gkaefer wrote:

and if you use papywizzard than you allways get 360x180 rotations, BUT you get in each row the same number of pictures, which is on zenitz and nadir a little bit nonsense.

Not so if you use a custom preset which can describe any user-defined shooting pattern.


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#5 2012-09-24 15:33:21

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Re: Panogear: 360° on both axis?

mediavets wrote:

gkaefer wrote:

and if you use papywizzard than you allways get 360x180 rotations, BUT you get in each row the same number of pictures, which is on zenitz and nadir a little bit nonsense.

Not so if you use a custom preset which can describe any user-defined shooting pattern.

good to know! thanks for info.
Georg

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#6 2012-09-24 17:15:15

Christian Stüben
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Re: Panogear: 360° on both axis?

Thanks to all that answered!

<set jokes mode=on>
But ... your good news (yes it can do 360 x 180) is bad news for me, because it implies another 499,-- € investment.
<set jokes mode=off>

greetings from germany
Chris


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